Mr. Keeler seems to have misunderstood the point of my recent Open Forum. He seems to assume I am not mask wearing, or concerned with the current pandemic. He also assumes I have no friends or family with C0VID-19 issues. In my 70s with a variety of health issues, I am certainly not against wearing of masks in public places. I wear one and will continue to until my doctors advise otherwise. My concern, Mr. Keeler, is the enforcement of the governor’s edict. As I shopped recently at both Martin’s and Walmart, I saw roughly 50% compliance with mask wearing. Why should I assume that when the edict goes into effect that percentage will suddenly skyrocket? The edict calls for voluntary compliance, it does not carry the force of law, therefore police can not be called for noncompliance. I worry for the store staff that is now forced to contend with possibly unruly customers. That, Mr. Keeler, is the concern I voiced in my Open Forum. Please continue to wear a mask, as I will, until medical personnel or science tells us not to. But please don’t assume I don’t care.

Brian Daly 

Winchester

(40) comments

Bernie Mac

Be a good little boy and do as your mommy says.

Ali

If idiots don’t want to wear masks, it wouldn’t bother me as much if it were just an issue of their coming down with COVID themselves, because, well, idiots idiot and win idiot prizes. Unfortunately, the mask is a matter of helping not spread it to others. So, wear it or stay home.

Bernie Mac

Masks don't work.

Bryan.the.Nuri

Please show your evidence.

Bernie Mac

Calm down, sparky.

Ali

Yes, masks do work.

Bernie Mac

No, they don't.

Doc Samson

They are most likely a panacea but, Ali, don't let that stop you from being a self-righteous, condescending, know-it-all who can't accept diversity of opinion - https://www.livescience.com/are-face-masks-effective-reducing-coronavirus-spread.html

"The bottom line, experts say, is that masks might help keep people with COVID-19 from unknowingly passing along the virus. But the evidence for the efficacy of surgical or homemade masks is limited"

Ali

You are probably a flat earther as well, eh Bernie...I mean Doc.

Bernie Mac

Doc - These Democrats are very strange people. You provide them with scientific data and they imply that you are anti-science. With absolutely no sense of irony. Democrats feel no obligation to make sense when they comment.

soulmates

You can ask ten medical experts about masks and possibly get different answers. Surgeons wear them even my dentist wears one because they do not want to take a chance that I will get infected with anything. Error on the side of caution is good common sense IMHO. At least until we get a vaccine or a cure for this virus. Why is that so hard for folks? You only are asked to wear one when in a store as a courtesy to others. Why is that so difficult for some? This is not a constitutional issue it is one of courtesy and respect for yourself and others. It is not a political issue either. I think better safe than sorry is the correct call here. FWIW

DavidSparkman

We have enshrined ignorance and stupidity with face masks. Conformance, which has never been my strong point, calls for the people to symbolically wear a useless mask to show they care. Doctors are told not to prescribe standard medicines for political reasons. Incorrect studies are done to prove a political point. The media lies to us every day, and the fact checkers are in on the game. I don't know how it happened, but I don't seem to be in the United States of America any more.

Spock Here

Funny, Sparky....A large majority of the country doesn't feel like they are in the United States anymore, and have for about 4 years. We get you don't like science and rely on your tinfoil hat for your news, but to continue to show your downright ignorance and willful disregard for humanity remains unsettling

Doc Samson

Define "United States" because many of us felt that way for the eight years prior... Don't like science? I LOVE science! What I don't like is manipulating or falsifying data to fit an agenda. Just because you disagree means those of us willing to face uncomfortable truths are ignorant? Again, your logic... is virtually non-existent. Fascinating, ain't it?

Bryan.the.Nuri

Can you show the raw data that has been manipulated by the government or media to prove your assertions?

Doc Samson

@Pleasebecomeanonymous - Any proof I provided would, no doubt, be insufficient for you. Not gonna waste my time...

Ali

Bryan, “Doc” has nothing to back him up except the fevered imaginings of QAnon sites.

Bryan.the.Nuri

That would be because you have no actual sources.

Good bye, anonymous coward.

Bryan.the.Nuri

Calm down, Sparky. Your paranoia is showing...

The masks are not for preventing contraction, but transmission. I wear my mask in public places to prevent me from spreading it. My doctor recommended it.

Doctors don't ascribe to politics, period. Just because a politician (who has no background in medicine) recommended a medication that anecdotally might have worked, doesn't mean you get to order your doctor to prescribe it. That's what doctors are trained to do. If a medicine will not be efficacious in the treatment or prevention of a disease, it's more harmful than beneficial.

Invoking the "lugenpresse" on a local newspaper page only confirms your hypocrisy. But please, tell us where you are getting your information.

Spock Here

One in six patients (16 to 18 percent) treated with either chloroquine or hydroxychloroquine alone died in the hospital, compared to about 9 percent who didn't receive the drug.

When used in combination with an antibiotic, the death rate rose to more than one in five (slightly more than twenty percent) for chloroquine and nearly one in four (nearly twenty-five percent) for hydroxychloroquine.

After factoring in a number of variables -- including patient age and overall health -- the researchers estimated that the excess risk associated with the use of regimens containing chloroquine or hydroxychloroquine ranged from 34 percent to 45 percent. But sure Sparks, let's use the snake oil because the media is lying.? Doctors are lying? Everyone lies except the dotard? Surreal.

Bernie Mac

We are becoming Venezuela. And these idiotic Democrats think that's a good thing. Go figure.

Bryan.the.Nuri

Explain the relevance of Venezuela to this conversation.

Doc Samson

@Bernie Mac - Uh, please explain "becoming". Uh, please explain "Venezuela". Uh, please explain "idiotic". Uhhhhhh.... Funny how Leftists always want a deep, data filled, fact checked explanation and then, when provided, complain that it doesn't have the pro-China MSM/DNC stamp of approval and, therefore, simply cannot be worth reading...

ShruggingAtlas

He's a troll, just ignore him.

Spock Here

I figured it meant that "Venezuela" is an authoritarian-controlled country, and we seem to "becoming" more and more authoritarian every day because of the "idiotic" guy you voted for. Does that help?

Bryan.the.Nuri

Venezuela is just a trigger word. You don't *actually* know what happened there, hence your reticence to explain how it applies here...

Bernie Mac

Spock Here Jun 2, 2020 1:01pm

Funny, Sparky....A large majority of the country doesn't feel like they are in the United States anymore......

Hence, my Venezuela reference.

For the love of God, please try to find the answer yourself before asking the teacher.

Doc Samson

Lies, lies, and more lies - https://thefederalist.com/2020/06/03/the-media-are-lying-to-you-about-everything-including-the-riots/

Ali

Well, if we are becoming Venezuela, it's because we have our very own Maduro in the White House.

Bernie Mac

That's just plain stupid.

Ali

Stay classy, Bernie...Doc....whoever, same dude/different name.

Spock Here

"The price of freedom" says the NRA. I guess masks are too. It's clear many in Virginia have no respect for others health and well being. Simply because they don't want this "government oppression". Why has this been turned into something political?

Conservative

Because that's the way the establishment operates. Politicize everything. Remember, "Never let a crisis go to waste".

Bryan.the.Nuri

I guess we went to war after 9/11 for no reason then?

Doc Samson

The NRA? Where did that come into play here? Your thought process = so bizarre! lol... And color me surprised that a Leftist doesn't understand why those of us who value freedom and liberty don't like unconstitutional mandates. [yawn]

Bryan.the.Nuri

So you shouldn't be mourning the loss of the officer who was shot over the weekend, because that's why we are armed, right? To protect us from an oppressive government?

You really have to tell us when you jump narratives from "Blue lives matter" to "shoot them in the face!". It makes us know where you stand.

Bernie Mac

Arguing with Democrats is like arguing with someone with Attention Deficit Disorder. They jump from one idiotic statement to another with absolutely no sensible segue. You give normal people a headache.

Bryan.the.Nuri

@Bernie Mac, we get it. You're not dynamic thinkers.

Bernie Mac

To paraphrase Jack Nicholson from the movie, As Good As It Gets -

How do I know liberals so well? I think of a conservative and I take away reason and an obligation to make sense.

Bryan.the.Nuri

In other words, you still have nothing?

Go hide behind your fake user name.

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