GUSS MORRISON

In the past several months there has been a proliferation of articles, op-eds, commentaries and other media coverage on conservative Republicans denouncing the inclusion of the broader impact of racism and slavery as fundamental aspects of the teaching of American history in our schools, which has been classified as critical race theory (CRT).

According to a June 26 Star article by Bryan Andersson (Associated Press), critical race theory has become a lighting rod for Republicans as they seek to prevent schools from teaching or promoting it. While defining critical race theory has been a venture in academic subjectivity, several common characteristics include: a way of thinking about America’s history through the lens of racism; the idea that racism is systemic in the nation ‘s institutions and functions to maintain the dominance of white people in society; an effort to persuade white people that they are inherently racist and should feel guilty because of their advantages; a divisive discourse that pits people of color against white people; an effort by conservative Republicans to severely restrict and constrain the extent to which the full legacy of slavery is taught as a part of American history in schools.

Just recently Florida’s state Board of Education banned “critical race theory” from public school classrooms, adopting new rules it said would shield school children from curricula that could “distort historical events.” But the Florida Education Association called on the board to reject the proposal, stating: “Students deserve the best education we can provide, and that means giving them a true picture of their world and our shared history as Americans. Hiding facts doesn’t change them. Give kids the whole truth and equip them to make up their own minds and think for themselves.” According to an analysis from Education Week, eight states have banned or limited the teaching of the critical race theory.

However, Anderson concludes, that “even those who condemn or seek to ban critical race theory in schools often struggle to define what it is, and that real-world examples of students being indoctrinated in its principles are difficult to find. And why so? Just listen to the Daily Beast: Heads up, Concerned Parents, there’s a new moral-panic bogeyman — fomented by the far right and Fox News — that’s coming for America’s children, and it’s called critical race theory.

Well, in Winchester and Frederick/Clarke counties and many other areas CRT has been brazenly and insidiously transmuted and applied to Equity programs, which have been widely implemented throughout the nation as a tool for teachers and other school staff in helping to reduce the disparities in academic performance and disciplinary incidences of African Americans and Hispanic versus white students. Thus, the “gross misinformation, distortion, deviousness and outright deception about equity efforts” by Selwyn Duke, Tucker Carlson of Foxs New, and Shawn Graber of the Frederick County Board of Supervisors, which I noted in a March commentary on this subject, is exactly the type of criticism made of CRT, which certainly is not the same as Equity programs.

Guss Morrison is a resident of Frederick County.

(96) comments

TheOneAndOnlyNuri

I would like Clay Perry and/or Shawn Graber to show us where in the Virginia Standards of Learning he found the sections to cover critical race theory. I would also like to know under what circumstances and reasons they filed an FOIA request to gain access to school records without parental permission and to what class they claim to have records thereof.

No evidence? then you're just spittin' in the wind.

Blackhorsegirl

Mr. Kovach, I am truly sorry at what happened to your grandfather. There really are no words.

While there was no physical violence, my mother’s family in Charlotte, NC was targeted by anti Catholics.

Nasty pamphlets were left. My mom would tell me how furious my grandmother would become. It obviously made an impression on my mom to remember and pass on the story.

Sadly, nothing has changed. People haven’t changed.

Ken Kovach

Blackhorsegirl Thank you for your kind words. I was not surprised that you responded with empathy. I hope you continue posting to letters in the Star because, you’re very good at putting together words that make strong points. Contact me sometime through progressivesummaries.com. See the About page.

Blackhorsegirl

You’re very welcome. Everyone should be outraged over what happened to your grandfather. What a 100 years ago? I feel the outrage.

Ken Kovach

David Sparkman, I agree that I have a dislike for republicans as a whole because I totally disagree with their principles as listed on their Republican Party Platform. Their main principle is “American exceptionalism,” which I believe resonates to every hate group that participated in the Jan. 6th insurrection. I believe it is a racist foundation. I believe in equality which is totally opposite. In summary I disagree with all republican principles, from states’ rights, founders’ documents are the gospel, economics, etc.

As far as character is concerned, character is built by our actions. For example, I believe people who respectfully wore masks as our government requested, were people of virtue and high character and they showed respect. I believe the thousand people in Winchester that marched for BLM, have strong character. I believe it is highly insulting to question someone’s moral character, and we need to be careful that our own moral character isn’t inflated. Here is a story that is a case in point.

In 1928 two men dressed in white hoods beat my grandfather half to death. They were passing their judgment on his moral character. These two ignorant church elders thought they had moral character and God on their side. This same ignorance is very prevalent even today. We need to question only our own moral character.

Ken Kovach

FYI Any republican reading my post to David Sparkman. For the purpose of better understand one another. When a liberal progressive uses the word “equality” or “equal”, it is obviously in terms of human right, which has nothing to do with money.

Also, the Lee statue in Charlottesville is coming down today! How you feel about this might be a racist test?

Blackhorsegirl

Useless blah, blah, blah. Same baseless accusations and more blah, blah, blah.

What are you Trump Cult Members so afraid of?

Doc Samson

The Left is always playing the semantics game, moving the goal posts, and ignoring or mocking any rational, factual discussion.

https://hotair.com/allahpundit/2021/07/07/teachers-union-chief-we-dont-teach-critical-race-theory-teachers-union-teaching-critical-race-theory-is-important-n400937

WClaytonPerry

Agreed. I sometimes feel like I am watching the movie Idiocracy from 2006. Watch it and let me know if you agree. It is almost prophetic to what is happening today. Let's just hope things don't get that bad before people wake up and follow facts and reason.

Doc Samson

RE: Idiocracy! YES! A mash-up of that and Wall-E... [thumbup]

Ken Kovach

WClaytonPerry, I can’t understand why republicans should be upset about being labeled racist. Their top number one principle in their party platform is, “We believe in American exceptionalism.” The synonyms of exceptional are extraordinary, special, excellent, incomparable. So, by the party’s own words they infer they’re racists. (The opposite of exceptional is inferior, lesser, lower, substandard.) In the 1870’s the democrats were considered to be the racist party as their slogan was, “The White Man Party.” As time passed however, the parties evolved. I have had political discussions with republicans in my extended family and they have proudly admitted that they are racist.

john brown

Most tRump republiclans I know are proud racist white nationalists and that's the nicest thing you could say about them. They also seem to be treasonous anti-democratic as well.

WClaytonPerry

What specifically did these Trump Republicans say to you that makes them proud racist white nationalists. I am very active in politics and know hundreds of Trump Republicans hear in Frederick County, and I don't know anyone that have shown racists actions nor would they come anywhere near of being proud of anyone that is racist. Please share facts of actual statements or specific actions of these racist republicans you know. Since you said "most", you should have tons of things to share.

Ken Kovach

Ok WClaytonPerry,, here are two racist repug cousin stories.

Cousin #1 had a black kid do some yard work and he told us that, “he finally got a darkie,” as he chuckled hideously. He is a true-blue trump supporter.

Cousin #2 was talking about his nephews Jew wife in a derogator way. I told him he was racist and he admitted that he was racist.

They are both white, proud to be republican, and Christian church goers.

DavidSparkman

So Ken, you were asked about Trump and you answered with cousins from your own family. I would say the problem is with your family, not with Trump who has done so much for the Black community. My parents raised me different than your cousins and I did likewise with my children. The personal question is would you pass MLK's character test? You are blasting people you do not know and attributing bad intentions to them. That does not speak well of your character.

Blackhorsegirl

Mr. Sparkman, For someone accused of allegedly attacking the Capital in an effort to overthrow a fair, safe, and legal election, you’re in no position to discuss pretty much anything. You are an alleged criminal and traitor.

Do I need to remind you that you allowed the wailings of traitorous idiots to encourage you to beat police officers, destroy property, defecate on the floor and smearing the feces on the wall, and break down office doors and vandalize. You can say you did none of this. Ok, but you were part of a group that did and you were arrested for something.

Do us all a favor and keep quiet 🤫

WClaytonPerry

Sorry your family said they were racist. That is horrible, but maybe you irritated them to the point of saying "ok, you got me, i am a racist by your logic" in sarcasm. With the way you draw an inference between "American exceptionalism" and racism, I can see them doing that out of sarcasm just to get you to stop. Inference is really just your opinion and not fact. Actions speak louder than words, and my past and current actions are not of a racist. And I am confident of that. And I am confident that all of my conservative friends are not racist including my friends Terry and Winsome Sears. Focus on facts and not your personal inferences. It will make your points stronger.

Ken Kovach

WClaytonPerry, In the beginning of your post your vivid imagination fabricated a completely delusional story of my conversation with a cousin. Then at the end you say, “Focus on facts and not your personal inferences.” ??

WClaytonPerry

Ken... Grammar lesson. When a word like "maybe" is used, then that implies I am stating an opinion or theory. I was trying to understand why you may have so many family members that admit they are racist which surprises me when I don't think racism is nearly as bad as the fear mongering progressives make it out to be. But then I learn the truth from you. You used the plural tense to imply multiple family members admitted they were racist, but now you clarify it was just one cousin. I speak with clarity as to what is an opinion I have and what is a fact I am presenting. You embellished your story, and you admit to it. Thanks for being honest in this post.

Blackhorsegirl

Mr. Kovach and Mr. Brown, Those that study demographics are reading certain tea leaves. They believe in the next 20 years white will no longer be the majority race. Also, many older white Republican voters will die out without enough younger voters to fill the ranks.

Now, tea leaf readers work at universities and become specialists in their field. You can believe it or not. On a smaller note, demographics have played a strong part in the changes in cities like Atlanta, Phoenix, and others who are now voting Democrat.

It’s already happening.

I’m sure your racist friends and relatives won’t believe it. It’s going to happen (is happening) rather they believe it or not.

Ken Kovach

Blackhorsegirl, The republican party is doomed because they have nothing to offer the growing minority populations. The last election was a white supremist worst nightmare come true. The large minority populations in the inner cities slowly turned their trump into the biggest loser. The irony is, while trump awakened white racism, he also awakened minorities to vote him out. As I watched the last election unfold, I felt as if we were seeing justice or karma coming to fruition. America’s lowest point is behind us and I am optimistic about the future.

Blackhorsegirl

Yes, Mr. Kovack, I may not live long enough to see the extinction of the Republican Party but knowing it will happen is a good feeling. American citizens deserve better.

Please don’t think I’ve been a raging leftist all my life. That’s just not true. However, eventually my own conscience won out. I’d rather work for a platform that supports social action, the ACA, feeding the hungry, caring for the poor, the mentally ill, and the veterans, housing the homeless, than being a white racists.

WClaytonPerry

Democrats just keep playing the race card, but that card deck is worn out. Black Americans have been exiting the Democratic Party because it promises all the things that BlackHorse says, but it never delivers. Black Americans are essentially political pawns for Democrats, but they are opening their eyes and seeing the horrible conditions in which blacks in the inner city have to deal with. The Democratic leaders of these big cities have failed for over 40 years. Black Americans are realizing that Republicans are not racists and that we actually have everyone's best interest in mind. We want everyone in this great nation to have privilege, and Black Americans are seeing that. To any black person living in the area, please come to a Republican meeting and hear what we actually talk about. Then you will know the truth.

Blackhorsegirl

🥱. Defend the platform (or lack there of) of the Republican Party.

You people are good at nasty name calling but logical, factual argument? mmmmm….nope-you’re not capable. Living in a fantasy world of lies and conspiracies doesn’t lead to the real use of brain cells 😎

Blackhorsegirl

Do you notice, Mr. Brown, how Trump’s Cult Members elect to ignore the suggestion that they are racist White Nationalists and traitors, as well?

Well, I keep asking (actually begging) for proof of a stolen election and I get ignored there, too.

Golly, living in a world of lies and fear must be very sad.

WClaytonPerry

To quote you in my response... "Useless blah, blah, blah. Same baseless accusations and more blah, blah, blah."

Blackhorsegirl

Still waiting for the proof of a stolen election. You know, facts, evidence and things like that. 😂. You all are a joke.

Blackhorsegirl

Mr. Kovach, I would like to believe it won’t happen again but we need to be realistic. These people view that laws don’t apply to them.

Just like the insurrectionist who blubbered and cried and wailed and begged leniency before a judge. His sentence was kind. She couldn’t get on Fox fast enough saying the opposite, spewing her lies, and feeding into the lies of Fox. I would guess that judge is furious. These people are liars, con men (and women) and, in some cases, criminals.

Would they do what was done on January 6th again? Absolutely!

WClaytonPerry

Wasn't this discussion about CRT? Who changed it to January 6th or the election results. I guess when you cannot win an argument, you start a new one. That is when I will politely bow out and go enjoy the beach.

Ken Kovach

Blackhorsegirl I think the moment of enlightenment for the participants of the January 6th insurrection will be when they realize they will go down in history as modern-day Benedict Arnold’s. I hope, in the future, our schools use them as examples of how gullible people can be deceived into believing they are patriots when they are actually traitors so, it never happens again.

Blackhorsegirl

Actually, Mr. Perry, there really should be no discussion on CRT because it’s not being taught in any public schools anywhere. It could take years for that to happen. Why is anyone getting their political bloomers in a twist.

The CRT started out and may still be taught or used in some law schools. If Trump and his Toadies can’t keep their idiot brainless followers in a twist about something, they can’t grift money out of them. CRT is really a non issue.

john brown

Good morning all

Blackhorsegirl

Yes, Fox is scaring parents purposely to: 1) Raise their viewership. 2). Raise money for Republicans. Trump’s fear and that of his Toadies is that their empty headed followers will actually hatch a brain cell and lose interest in constant lies.

WClaytonPerry

And yet you ask Doc to provide "proof". All of your claims in this statement are you opinion. Fox has the highest ratings, and CNN is failing, so why does Fox need to scare people. But the bigger question is... Can you provide a video, statement, claim or other proof that Fox is scaring people to raise ratings? You cannot. However, at the same time, a CNN technical producer was caught on camera saying they deliberately did whatever they could to paint Trump in a bad light in order to make sure he was not re-elected. So one of us has a video, and the other has nothing. So which truth do you believe? Or you can do the Kamala Harris imitation and just snicker at this question because it is not logical that there is a video proving CNN's bias, but nothing proving Fox's bias.

Doc Samson

@WClaytonPerry - Perfect! Leftists are simply incapable of having a rational discussion on pretty much anything. Everything they accuse others of doing/thinking is exactly what they are guilty of doing/thinking. Come up with an irrefutable fact? Well, they'll ignore or mock but certainly NEVER actually address said fact. It's unreal. Irreconcilable differences are... irreconcilable.

WClaytonPerry

Gus... One of the elements of posting in an open forum is "Be Truthful". However, your opinion is full of conjecture that Fox News is creating a boogeyman to scare parents. And it talks about CRT being different than equity. Maybe instead of conjecture, you would actually call Shawn Graber and review the Deep Equity text book that he procured via a FOIA request. The book is more about CRT than Equity. It refers to the Tea Party as a masked white supremacist group. Maybe you should also talk to employees in the school system that went through the Equity training and were sick to their stomachs when they were shown a table that listed Christian Values as oppressive. I make "true" and "factual" statements because I have seen with my own eyes and/or spoken directly to people with firsthand information. Please don't try to brush this off as Fox News scare tactics. This is real and parents of FCPS students should contact their school principals and ask them what exactly is being taught to their students. From everything I have seen, it is divisive and needs to be removed from our schools.

TheOneAndOnlyNuri

Have you seen this book? No, you probably haven't. nor have you witnessed firsthand any of how critical race theory has been implemented into the Virginia Standards of Learning. CRT is just another hapless tactic for clueless conservatives to demonize public schools...schools those same people already used themselves.

It's time to stop slavishly following Fox News and its tribe of panic mongers and fear pandering.

WClaytonPerry

Nuri... Seems like your consistent defense is to say it is all Fox News conspiracy theories. That really does not carry weight in a discussion. That is essentially a conspiracy theory in and of itself. Now onto your suggestion that I have not seen the book. Well that is false. I have seen the book firsthand. I am not stupid enough to make bold statements without having direct evidence. So let me clear this up. I have seen the book. I have talked to a student leader that participated in the class. I have talk to a principal that was in a class, and this principal has now been invited to participate in another class this summer. None of this comes from Fox News. I was made aware of this issue and did research on this issue long before it became a talking point for Fox News. Sorry to disappoint you, but I am a free thinker that does my own research and only accepts firsthand evidence. So for you, it is time to stop lavishly using Fox News as your counterargument for every point you try to make.

Spock Here

And I too have "seen the book" and you lie. I have also talked to "a principal and a student leader." They told me you and Graber lie. I too am a free thinker. Dang, that's all easy to say isn't it?

TheOneAndOnlyNuri

Awesome. So I guess you can give us page numbers that support your argument? I don't need full MLA or APA formatting, just cited page numbers from "the book".

Oh, and then you can show us the sections of the Virginia SOLs that implement them.

WClaytonPerry

Nuri... OK. So you will not accept the statement of a FCPS principal telling me he was in a training course that listed Christian Values as oppressive. With standards like that, you must have been the on the OJ jury. And at the same time, you offer nothing in rebuttal other than to ask for more proof. It would be nice if you had something to the contrary other than to say it is not in the SOLs. Until about 6 months ago, leaders in FCPS denied that Deep Equity was being taught only to get caught when the FOIA proved differently. So you saying it is not in the SOLs does not mean it isn't being taught in FCPS to administrators, teachers, and student leaders. And to be clear, I have spoken to 3 student leaders that verified they took the special program which included Deep Equity / CRT training. But let's go another step further to appease you... The book is called "The Deep Equity Process - We Can't Lead Where We Won't Go". On page 314, it states that the Tea Party is a white supremacist group that "masks its racism under the guise of patriotism". So little Susie gets to go to school and be told that her father who is a Tea Party member is a racist and white supremacist. And if little Susie is black, then she is going to be really confused how her black father who is a Tea Party member is a white supremacist. So please stop with the "it doesn't exist" line and offer some real proof. I am still waiting on that. Black Horse and Ken have already given up and changed the discussion to the election results and January 6. Please don't do that. It is exhausting.

Spock Here

Oh good grief granma, A teacher's workbook????? A "guide" doesn't get taught. What a fraud "Mr. Perry" is. Just like Graber. Sad group of people pushing this "outrage."

WClaytonPerry

OK Spock. What proof do you want because I continue to keep providing more, and you and Nuri don't accept it. Yet you provide nothing and somehow think that helps this discussion. Your input is not just sad, but worthless.

Doc Samson

@WClaytonPerry - It's never "enough" and, when it is provided, it is simply mocked or ignored. You cannot convince a Leftist cultist of anything that they don't already "believe"...

Spock Here

Grandiose and sweeping statements stating you "have seen" and have "talked to" and providing the title of a workbook about the theory is proof of nothing. It's as bad as "doc" saying he knows teachers who told him this and that. Means squat. And we know he's being disingenuous because if he knew that many teachers, he'd present more intelligence when he squawks.

TheOneAndOnlyNuri

Like you did your research on COVID? 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣

TheOneAndOnlyNuri

Ok, Perry the Platypus...

You still haven't shown us where CRT or Deep Equity are in the curriculum. The only thing you bring is evidence is a nameless, faceless claim and an FOIA report. If you knew how things worked, you would know that under FERPA, no educational records of students under the age of 18 may be released to a third party without a parent's consent. I have a feeling that the roster that keeps getting used as a prop is merely a Joe McCarthy list, aka nothing.

WClaytonPerry

Spock... You say "I too am a free thinker", but then you say "They told me you and Graber lie". Hopefully you can see the contradiction in your own statement. I don't lie, and I would appreciate that you don't attack me by calling me a liar again. That does not add to the discussion and it weakens every argument you make on this topic and future topics.

Doc Samson

@WClaytonPerry - Your rational and factual statements are no match for Prog-Leftist hysteria and hyperbole...

TheOneAndOnlyNuri

So your response to being asked how students are being taught critical race theory is a teacher's workbook for in-service training? Well, you lost your argument.

john brown

For the confused, below is a snippet of the ideas and realities that CRT is based on...again CRT is only discussed in a University setting, not frederick, clarke, warren. loudoun counties or Winchester City:

"The document he helped create repudiated a Virginia constitution adopted in 1902 with the stated purpose of disenfranchising Black people, which it did with bureaucratic efficiency for decades. The new constitution went into effect on July 1, 1971, finally bringing the modern era to the state where American slavery originated."

The who referenced was a Professor A E Richard Howard, a 34 year old UVA professor who helped re-write the Virginia constitution to include blacks as full citizens in Virginia in 1971. That's correct 1971.

Ken Kovach

The Trump drama fueled Fox until post-election, but then they lost ratings. They needed something to “shock and ah” their followers so, they demonized the critical race theory. Then, they gave it an acronym (CRT) so it’s easy to remember. Fox and friends spread the word and Fox ratings have improved. The followers of this Fake News are indoctrinated.

URA SNOWFLAKE

How about just teaching math, reading and other school subjects that are pertinent to learning and not social theories. The left knows no bounds of stupidity in telling what you need to do.

john brown

yes you are a snowflake ... so the schools should just teach what makes you comfortable or you will "melt" ...LOL

TheOneAndOnlyNuri

Yikes... it sounds like you only know CRT from what you were told form Hannity and the other shepherds of neo-conservatism. Tell us, where is critical race theory located in the Virginia SOLs?

Spock Here

Critical race theory doesn’t teach you to judge based on skin color

Schools have never really taught it

The government sets the curriculum

Teaching the public to hate teachers and the education system is beginning to feel like a coordinated strategy

john brown

tRump "loves the uneducated" and is doing everything in his power to keep them that way and it seems to be working ...lol

Blackhorsegirl

What is the issue in filling in the gaps in history? Nothing. Why couldn’t high school kids study the massacre in Tulsa? They could. The only Snowflakes are the fearful, bigoted parents.

Fox and other Cable Clown 🤡 Shows have made a monster out of something harmless to increase its watchers like mentioned before.

People need to stop being so gullible. The new battle cry: Live in absolute fear. Send Trump money.

WClaytonPerry

No one has issue with filling true gaps in American history. I support UVA building the slave memorial to honor the laborers that built The University. That is not what is happening in our schools. What is happening (from a firsthand source) is that the training lists "Christian Values" as oppressive. So I am not sure what that means for a Black Christian. Can they be oppressed and also be the oppressor. The Equity trainer also highlighted a program where a "2nd grade" teacher gave buttons to students so they could note their gender for the day. And as for Trump, this was an issue before Trump ever mentioned it. I actually don't think I have heard Trump say it, but maybe that is because I am not listening to him everyday, but doing my own research. I would ask you to consider stop hearing the headlines from your sources and do the research yourself. These topics are dividing people that had come together, and that makes them disgusting.

WClaytonPerry

Please don't try to adjust the discussion. No one wants to teach the public to hate teachers. We love teachers, and we feel they are very underpaid. Instead, we want the public to challenge the school board and the administration. That is the point, and skewing it to try to create fear in teachers that conservatives want people to hate them is a farce. That is actually what fear mongering looks like.

Doc Samson

In the immortal words of your buddy, BFHG, "blah, blah, blah..." [lol]

RightSide

If CRT is a myth, then why do you progressives push back so, so hard? Nobody does that to a myth. Clearly, we have caught CRT early on and have a chance to expose it and stop it. Which we will do. Make no mistake. CRT is just reverse racism. Say no to CRT in Frederick County. Say no to CRT in Virginia.

john brown

It's you tRumpsters' myth of the month...I always liked your "war on christmas", or "mr potato head" crisisc was a great one as well...LOL

As I told you, you are too late with your fear that the true factual history of our country will be taught to the children....way too late. After four years of tRump crazy, no one in the world sees this country as exceptional.

WClaytonPerry

John... You really don't believe there was a War on Christmas? You really don't believe that retail stores told their employees they were not allowed to say "Merry Christmas" and that they had to say "Happy Holidays" instead? I have talked to people in the retail sector, and they told me point blank they were told they cannot say "Merry Christmas". This happened a few years ago, the woke people got caught, and so we won back some of the ground that was taken. If you don't believe me, then check out catalogues this Christmas season and tell me how often you see things like "Holiday Trees". Have you ever seen a Muslim or Jewish person place gifts under a pine tree? They don't call it a Holiday Menorah because it is a Jewish Menorah, and I am okay with that. So this uneducated Trump supporter will tell you that you are just making statements and not providing any proof to support your statements which makes it conjecture or parroting.

john brown

I have talked to many people as well and know no one who has ever been told they could not say Merry Christmas .... and the rest of your comments are just as irrellevant in the scheme of things. The faux culture wars only work to scare the weak minded.

WClaytonPerry

John... You must not have talked to that many people. I was passionate about it so I said "Merry Christmas" every time and if they said Happy Holidays then I asked them if they were not allowed to say "Merry Christmas". Of course I talked to people that said they were not told they could not say "Merry Christmas". That does not prove or disprove the point. Those people just were not caught up in the game. But like I said, I did talk to a lot of people that said they were told they could not say "Merry Christmas". And others said they could only say it if the customer said it first. Why would a check out clerk make this up when asked. They have nothing to benefit by it. It is just not logical. At the same time, you could find entire holiday catalogues of Old Navy, Target, etc. that did not have the word "Christmas" listed one time. Literally, it would have green & red, wreaths, Santa, etc., but no mention of the word "Christmas". How do you explain this all happening at the same time? Is it just random that someone forgot to put the word "Christmas" in the Old Navy and Target catalogues the same year Home Depot started calling pine trees Holiday Trees? I would think anyone with a strong mind would see the correlation and come to the conclusion that it was planned and deliberate. So yes, everything I said is relevant and cannot be simply dismissed like you tried in your last response. You have to have facts to dismiss a point, and I have shared the facts that prove my point.

TheOneAndOnlyNuri

🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣

Spock Here

"early on" ??? OH, it's only been around since the 80s ...

john brown

Please explain how CRT is reverse racism, please explain what you mean by "reverse racism" and while you are at it, please give us your definition of what a socialist and marxist is? All you peddle is fear of all things not supporting white nationalism.

TheOneAndOnlyNuri

CRT isn't a myth. However, like the mothman and the Jersay devil, it has become a boogeyman to the people whose cultural narratives are perceivably harmed by reframing the picture. Maybe...just maybe...you're not in the center of every picture. Deal with it.

Doc Samson

"Maybe...just maybe...you're not in the center of every picture" Says the "insert gender here" who posts xer's face as xis avatar. 2 scoops of projection in every posting...

[lol][lol][lol]

shinyhappypeople

Yes Rightside, you and your gang of conservative sleuths found out about CRT in it’s early stages and are conquering yet another liberal monster before it ravages an unsuspecting town again. You have also helped us conquer the mr potato head travesty and other pressing issues of our day. Great work, warrior ! You have earned a Q clue and your trump file has been noted. Keep spreading hunches and gut beliefs instead of relying on science. You’re hot on the trail to truthiness. March on….

WClaytonPerry

Sarcasm does not prove a point. It is just a leftists response when they don't have any facts to add to the discussion. It is like Kamala Harris when she gets called out and just laughs as a response. For here we are not afraid to follow the truth so long as there is reason left free to combat it. We will keep following the truth, and you will keep trying attempts at sarcasm to reconcile that you don't have facts to support your argument. Keep shining my friend.

Ken Kovach

shinyhappypeople, excellent job of writing poignant sarcasm.

WClaytonPerry

Refer to my previous point that although the sarcasm was very good, it does not actually prove a point. Facts > sarcasm.

Catherine Giovannoni

The right wing constantly gins up one culture war issue after another. A War on Christmas! Gay people getting married! Cancel culture! Obama's birth certificate! Save Dr. Seuss! Caravans of immigrants (what ever happened to them?)! Transgendered people going to the bathroom! And the always-useful "They're going to take your guns!" The sudden frothing over CRT (however vaguely defined) is just the latest in a long line of these manufactured culture war issues. And, sadly, some people are so gullible that they storm from one imagined outrage to the next. Why do Republicans do this? Because it keeps people distracted from the fact that Republicans have no ideas or programs to help average Americans. They stand only for tax give-aways to billionaires. Thus, their only hope is to keep a certain percentage of the population so worked up that they vote against their own self interest. At some point, you'd think people would get tired of being taken for fools.

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shinyhappypeople

This is EXACTLY the point, Catherine! Anyone crying about “critical race theory” is just parroting the latest white grievance topic being pushed ad naseum on Fox news. More grift and distraction from the cult of personality.

WClaytonPerry

Why don't you call Shawn Graber and ask him to sit down and show you the Deep Equity book that is being taught in FCPS rather than offer conjecture that this is a Fox News hoax. We are not parroting. We have seen the proof. If you don't have counter proof, then you would be the one that is actually parroting the NEA's counter points.

Doc Samson

@WClaytonPerry - Funny how the Left rarely, if ever, replies when called out. Their cries of "Proof!" suddenly go silent when the same is asked of them...

Spock Here

"we have seen the proof" is not "proof" of anything.

Blackhorsegirl

Oh, my, what a joke you are, Doc. I have asked and will keep asking for the proof of a stolen election. You know proof don’t you? Evidence, facts, something, anything.

Not only is no proof or evidence presented, my request isn’t even acknowledged. Why? Well, we know there is no proof, evidence, or, for that matter, no stolen election.

Yet, you continue to support those accusations and those who keep shrieking them.

My guess is, being the cowards Republicans are, you will simply ignore me.

That’s ok because I know I’m right. I know the Truth that is supported by real facts that can be verified. Trump lost the election and it wasn’t even close.

Doc Samson

"Oh, my" indeed...

https://thefederalist.com/2021/07/09/new-evidence-indicates-enough-illegal-votes-in-georgia-to-tip-2020-results/

Of course, when you do nothing but ignore or mock that which doesn't fit your narrative, it makes it easy to always be right... right? [lol]

Blackhorsegirl

62 courts, over 80 judges, the Supreme Court twice, 50 Governors who certified the election, dozens and dozens of hard working honest poll managers from both parties who said their election was fair and honest, many lawyers in the Attorney General’s Office, The Attorney General, The Chief of Cyber Security.

What you have:

The shrieking of a pathetic old man with the emotional maturity of a 7 year old. A pathetic old man who is enough of a criminal to try to threaten people to illegally flip the election for him.

Trump lost. Biden won. Get over yourselves.

Doc Samson

BFHG asks "Whaaares da PROOOOOFFFF????!!!!"

Doc provides proof.

BFHG ignores said proof and goes on to provide "her" facts to show that any proof that isn't following her narrative is irrelevant.

Several mental health diagnosis come to mind... [lol]

Doc Samson

@BFHG - Proof provided, topic dropped, but I'm the joke? Ooookay! [thumbup][lol]

WClaytonPerry

Can we see facts instead of conjecture? I have seen the Deep Equity book taught in FCPS. It is full of divisive and racist teachings. It has everything in it that Fox News highlights. Have you seen the book? If not, then please request a meeting with Shawn Graber so he can show you. Or call your school principal and ask them to tell you the books and training courses they have had to attend.

Blackhorsegirl

Doc, Because The Federalist says it doesn’t make it true. If there had been a real case it would have been taken to court. It wasn’t so that tells me there was no case. Georgia was recounted so many times, Biden should be the 58th president he won so many times. Remember, ignorant idiots with iPhones took pictures shrieking fraud when the poor poll worker was just doing their correct job.

Doc, for the hundredth time: Find evidence, proof, facts, that can be verified and will hold up in court.

They. Don’t. Exist. Trump Lost. Badly

I would suggest you talk to a mental health professional to help you through this.

Blackhorsegirl

Just an add on, Doc, winning Georgia wouldn’t have won the election. If there had been 35,000 illegal votes, why would the governor, the Secretary of State, and other prominent election workers-all Republicans, by the way, stand by a fair, safe, and legal election in Georgia? That’s because it was.

TheOneAndOnlyNuri

If they can't be angry, what else do they have to live for?

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WClaytonPerry

That is what you say when you don't have anything to add to the discussion. You just put people in your prejudice box and think you win the argument. It would be nice one day if you actually took the time to gather facts and share them with us rather than your opinion that we are just angry people.

Blackhorsegirl

The funny thing, Catherine, is that it is not the rich the Republicans wish to keep worked up. Its the base who is low to middle class in income and limited education. The Republicans do not care about these people other than for their vote and to grift money. This base which has shown itself to be susceptible to just about any lie or conspiracy has become victimized by a party that only sees these people as the repairman who services their car or the woman who cleans their house. The Republicans can’t get their noses out of the air long enough to see real people.

WClaytonPerry

Holy Cow. I knew liberals loved to blame Republicans for tactics that they do, but this one takes the cake. Replace "Republican" with "Democrat" and replace "low income uneducated" with "black person", and you will have the truth. Democrats have played the race card for 50 years to win elections in the big cities. They have made promises about improving schools, making neighborhoods safe, create economic opportunity, etc. They get the vote, but the cities are still in shambles.

Blackhorsegirl

Then don’t vote for them. It’s as simple as that.

Doc Samson

@WClaytonPerry - They just need more money and more control, man! Once they have ALL of both of those? Paradise, baby!

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